This group brings together the best thinkers on energy and climate. Join us for smart, insightful posts and conversations about where the energy industry is and where it is going.

Post

Ganging up on Tesla Could Help Accelerate EV Adoption

image credit: Photo: Copyright Stellantis
Tony Paradiso's picture
Principal, E3

I provide consulting services primarily assisting renewable energy-related companies in areas such as strategic planning, marketing, and operations. I have helped bring to market numerous leading...

  • Member since 2023
  • 375 items added with 95,880 views
  • Jul 28, 2023
  • 533 views

Maybe ganging up is too harsh a categorization, or not.

When seven major automotive manufacturers agree to cooperate, that can reasonably be considered a gang. And when the objective of said partnership potentially neutralizes a major advantage held by Tesla, I think Tesla should “take it personally.”

So what have BMW, GM, Honda, Hyundia, Mercedes-Benz Kia, and Stellantis agreed to do? And no – I have no idea who Stellantis is either, but we’ll get to that. The companies intend to form a joint venture to significantly expand North America’s EV charging network.

According to the U.S. Department of Energy there are about 32,000 fast-chargers installed throughout the U.S. The joint venture hopes to almost double that number. They anticipate installing the first chargers in the U.S. by next summer.

Missing from the announcement: the target date for installing all 30,000 chargers. That, along with a few other minor details remains to be ironed out. In other words, believe this story when ink hits paper and not before.

And even if it does, and they hit their targets - whatever they may be - the U.S. will need significantly greater deployment to hit President Biden’s desire for EVs to become 50% of the installed base by 2030.

To accomplish that, it is estimated we’ll need between 500,000 to 1.2 million public chargers by 2030. To put it another way – Joe – come up with a new goal.

Nonetheless, when seven major carmakers – correct that – six major carmakers and one company no one has ever heard of team up, that constitutes progress.

So who the heck is Stellantis?

It’s not actually a car company but collective of 14 iconic (their word not mine) automotive brands that include the likes of Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Jeep, Maserati, and Peugeot.

OK – that’s a little impressive.

I’ll monitor the evolution of this proposed partnership and report any progress made.

Discussions
Matt Chester's picture
Matt Chester on Jul 28, 2023

Market competition is always a good thing

Mark Wilkinson's picture
Mark Wilkinson on Jul 28, 2023

Fun post.  I'd argue that Stellantis is a car company with a lot of brands. They do actually make cars.  In fact, they make and sell about as many vehicles in the US as Tesla plans to make in 2023 for the world

A few facts and figures.

Not sure about the expectation for 50% of the vehicle install base converting to EV by 2030.  The US has 231M cars today, and EVs accounted for only 928K sales in 2022, so there's not enough production capacity planned in the next 7 years to replace half of the petrol fleet.

50% of annual sales might be achievable, but not in that same 7 years.  Tesla will make 1.8M cars in 2023 for the world, and they have cumulatively shipped on 4M cars to date.  Since Tesla accounts for 65%+ of EV sales in the US, the numbers don't add up.  Tesla would have to triple production at current proportions to meet that goal, and they are already starting to discount their cars due to slow sales.

US sales of cars and light trucks topped 13.8M last year, and manufacturers still haven't figured out how to make EVs at a profit.  Ford lost $2.1B on EVs just in 2022 and cannot afford to lose money for 7 years to hit some artificial figure not supported by consumers.  Their shareholders won't like that.

But, here's another stat.  We don't need 1M charging stations.  The US has 115K gas stations.  If each station has 6 pumps, that's 690K gas pumps for 291M ICE vehicles, or 1 pump for every 421 cars and trucks.

Even if EVs hit 50% of fleet sales, or 7M vehicles, on top of roughly 5M vehicles already produced, 1M charging stations is WAY over capacity for 12M vehicles.  One public charging station for every 12 EVs doesn't make sense.  And, every homeowner with an EV can install their own charging station in their home, which further reduces the volume of public stations required.

Public fast chargers are like real estate.  It's all about location.  Put them at convenience stores and fueling plazas, especially off the beaten path.  And, someone better have a reliable app that tells me where a fast charger is, if it's in good working order, and how many people are queued up to use it.  Being available where drivers need them will be much more efficient and cost effective approach, especially for utilities.  No way does an electric utility want to invest in infrastructure that then requires support and maintenance that customers don't want or don't need and won't use.

That investment by the manufacturers sounds like a bit of a dog, especially if they pick the CCS charging standard like the EU instead of Tesla's NACS, that Ford and GM have already pledged to adopt.

By the way, I like the Jeep PHEV from Stellantis.  Very modern ride with 30M of EV only range, which is enough to get around town at least.

Tony Paradiso's picture
Thank Tony for the Post!
Energy Central contributors share their experience and insights for the benefit of other Members (like you). Please show them your appreciation by leaving a comment, 'liking' this post, or following this Member.
More posts from this member

Get Published - Build a Following

The Energy Central Power Industry Network® is based on one core idea - power industry professionals helping each other and advancing the industry by sharing and learning from each other.

If you have an experience or insight to share or have learned something from a conference or seminar, your peers and colleagues on Energy Central want to hear about it. It's also easy to share a link to an article you've liked or an industry resource that you think would be helpful.

                 Learn more about posting on Energy Central »