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Elon Musk’s Latest Court Fight Hinges On ‘Pedo Guy’ Interpretation: Twitter Insult Or Defamation?

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Elon Musk has spent a lot of time in federal court in the past 14 months because of things he said on Twitter, facing off twice against U.S. securities regulators and now hit with a lawsuit claiming he defamed a little-known British citizen whom the billionaire tech entrepreneur called “pedo guy” in an irate tweet. He’s trying to convince a jury he wasn’t calling the man a child molester, but that this was just a case of two men trading angry insults. 

Musk was on the stand in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles on Wednesday for almost four hours, taking questions from attorney Lin Wood, representing Vernon Unsworth, the diver and cave expert who was the target of those tweets. Stephen V. Wilson, appointed by President Ronald Reagan in 1985, is the federal judge hearing the case.

In his opening remarks, Wood said they’ve caused Unsworth to feel “shame, worry and distress at being called a pedophile” and that Musk “failed to use reasonable care to prove those statements were true.” The suit, which Musk characterized as a “shakedown” on Wednesday, seeks unspecified damages.

Unsworth had assisted Thai rescuers in June and July 2018 who were racing to save a soccer team of 12 boys and their coach trapped for days in a flooded cave. Musk and dozens of SpaceX engineers also jumped in to assist, building a mini-submarine to transport one boy at a time through a dangerous, flooded, rocky passage. But by the time he was actually on the scene in Thailand, most of the boys had been rescued and the device wasn’t used.

A few days later, Unsworth infuriated Musk by telling a CNN interviewer the mini-sub was a “PR stunt” with no chance of success and that he could “stick it where it hurts.” 

“It was an unprovoked attack on what was a good-natured attempt to help the kids,” Musk, dressed in a somber charcoal suit and tie, told the courtroom. After watching the interview, “I was angry. . . . What he said was wrong and insulting, and I insulted him back.”

Specifically, Musk launched a series of tweets at Unsworth to his more than 20 million followers that concluded with the line, “Sorry pedo guy, you really did ask for it.”

It’s unclear how big a financial penalty Musk could face should he fail to convince the jury of five women and three men that there was nothing defamatory in his tweets. Still, his haste in making rash comments on Twitter that were potentially seen by millions of people underscores the ongoing challenge he has in conforming to expectations for how the leader of a high-profile public company should behave. This is particularly impactful for Tesla, given how reliant it is on him as the company’s core visionary and hero to many investors and brand fans.

Forbes estimates his net worth to be $23.7 billion, as of December 3, 2019.

Musk and his attorneys argue that a reasonable person wouldn’t assume he was calling Unsworth a pedophile with the Twitter comments.

Unsworth displayed no emotion Wednesday as Musk referred to him multiple times as “creepy,” even after the Tesla and SpaceX CEO conceded there was no evidence of inappropriate behavior or actions by Unsworth.

In defense of his comments, however, Musk argued his use of the phrase goes back to his youth in South Africa, and a belief it just means “creepy guy.” The usage is “quite common across the English-speaking world,” he told attorney Wood during questioning. “Pedo guy just means creepy.”

Musk previously asserted that etymological explanation in his September 2019 deposition, which drew a sharp response from South African journalist Rosa Lyster. “It feels insane to write this down, but let the record show that ‘pedo guy’ is not a common insult used in South Africa. When you are in South Africa and you call someone a ‘pedo guy,’ what you are doing is suggesting that they are a pedophile,” she wrote in a piece for The Outline.

Musk admitted that when he wrote the tweets he was unaware of Unsworth’s role in the rescue, that it resulted from his familiarity with the Tham Luang caves in Chiang Rai Province where the boys were trapped, his key role in securing assistance in the rescue from British divers and that he’d been asked to do so by Thai authorities. 

“I thought he was just another creepy guy the media was interviewing,” Musk said.

“Twitter is a free-for-all for all sorts of things that are true or untrue,” he said, and that idiomatic language is frequently used. “I did not think he meant that I should literally sodomize myself with a submarine,” Musk said, referencing Unsworth’s CNN comments. “Just as I did not literally mean he was a pedophile.”

During questioning by Wood, Musk apologized again to Unsworth, as he did in a tweet last year after deleting his offensive July 15, 2018, tweets. 

Unsworth didn’t respond. 

Musk returns for additional testimony today, and the questioning of witnesses, including Unsworth, is expected to be completed this week. 

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